tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post7243002131889855118..comments2024-03-14T10:32:29.233-05:00Comments on Blood of Prokopius: Rethinking Charisma and WisdomFrDavehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00459281821319914530noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post-68764313866673120892011-12-02T13:34:31.987-06:002011-12-02T13:34:31.987-06:00@richard
Jim Jones was very skilled — as a con ma...@richard<br /><br />Jim Jones was <i>very</i> skilled — as a con man. I do not think him a counter-example to the Napoleans of the world.<br /><br />I read Mauss a very long time ago...and it made enough of an impression on me that I can only vaguely remember it.<br /><br />I don't have much of a problem with your noodling — other than it does not differentiate between divine (Christian) "magic" and arcane magic. Your system represents the latter extremely well — particularly from the stand point that arcane magic, at its core, tries to replace God with the self — POW. It does not, however, do a very good job of simulating the relationship the Christian has with God — the radical other. <br /><br />I would also put forth some anecdotal evidence that your premise is somewhat flawed. I award bonus Cleric spells for high WIS in my current campaign; however, they are determined randomly. Therefore, the players are always looking for ways to creatively use utility spells like Purify Food and Drink in order to use it and therefore make room for "better" spells. This creative spell casting has led to a lot of "can I try this?" discussions and some really cool interaction with the game world.FrDavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00459281821319914530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post-75743198347266133252011-12-02T03:59:54.343-06:002011-12-02T03:59:54.343-06:00when we think of great leaders, we will most often...<em>when we think of great leaders, we will most often find people who have great skill in their chosen field</em><br /><br />I suspect confirmation bias here: you're thinking of great leaders who were also "historically successful:" their success might be attributed to qualities other than their leadership abilities. Jim Jones was unquestionably a great leader - he convinced a bunch of people to do things that confuse the rest of us. I don't know if he showed any other great skills. And he's not a one-off, but because of the way history is written we tend to know less about these kinds of cult leaders than we do about Caesars and Napoleons and the like.<br /><br />I do like the nous-based thief: the dex thief has always seemed a bit literal to me... but then I'd like nous-based fighters, too.<br /><br />Have you read <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gift_%28book%29" rel="nofollow">Mauss</a>? I would think that would be a useful context for thinking about "gifts freely given" - although you might find that the theological literature sufficient, in which case Mauss would probably be irrelevant.<br /><br />Finally, and if Mauss is of any interest, I'd be really curious to know your thoughts about some <a href="http://lurkerablog.wordpress.com/2011/05/12/on-cha-int-wis-and-pow-based-magics/" rel="nofollow">decidedly non-Christian noodling</a> I've been doing around Charisma. I'd certainly understand if it just said nothing to you, mind: I can see that we come from very different philosophical standpoints.richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517340075234811323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post-68894323558102253162011-07-27T12:57:22.234-05:002011-07-27T12:57:22.234-05:00Not only do I like where you went with this, I lik...Not only do I like where you went with this, I like where you started too--titles and words are really important when it comes to communicating how the paper informs the play.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post-15006005793023283932011-07-10T20:27:44.503-05:002011-07-10T20:27:44.503-05:00@Moist Oinka
My goal here wasn't to eliminate ...@Moist Oinka<br />My goal here wasn't to eliminate "double dipping," but rather to find a way to get back to the elegance of the OD&D characteristic bonuses while accounting for classes beyond the original three. I happen to be a big fan of B/X and don't necessarily mind abilities scores having multiple bonuses — I just have found that Intelligence and Charisma don't matter as much as I think they should.FrDavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00459281821319914530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post-13107672278971838372011-07-10T19:44:12.507-05:002011-07-10T19:44:12.507-05:00But aren't you attributing the same problem of...But aren't you attributing the same problem of "double-dipping" to the Prime Requisite that many OD&D players cry "foul" about concerning what B/X and later editions do with Ability Scores?<br /><br />You're setting the PR to give both an XP Adjustment as well as a bonus to Henchmen and their Morale.<br /><br />Let me say that I think it's a genius-level new take on old ideas, and I certainly went the same way you did about Clerics and Charisma, only for slightly different reasons.<br /><br />I'm firmly in the B/X camp of preferences and personally don't mind an Ability Score giving multiple Adjustments, I was just curious what the OD&D crowd thought of this twist.Hobo Ogrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05431382722661731621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post-88341413411706595062011-07-09T15:07:49.557-05:002011-07-09T15:07:49.557-05:00Great Dave, looking forward to hearing more about ...Great Dave, looking forward to hearing more about it!AndreasDavourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17170806742393291962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post-56818734184288022782011-07-08T14:06:48.024-05:002011-07-08T14:06:48.024-05:00interesting post :)interesting post :)Fabio Milito Pagliarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13043436735116048822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post-72693355349448376622011-07-08T09:03:21.703-05:002011-07-08T09:03:21.703-05:00@James & Andreas
I'd love to hear how it w...@James & Andreas<br /><i>I'd love to hear how it works in play</i><br />I'm working on it...FrDavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00459281821319914530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post-40906906251242595512011-07-07T15:18:46.193-05:002011-07-07T15:18:46.193-05:00Yeah, like James I'd love to hear how it works...Yeah, like James I'd love to hear how it works in play. for many years I have been slightly disatisfied with Wisdom as a stat. Perception is one if the first extra stats I tend to add when I hack systems.<br /><br />This was a very nice rethink!<br /><br />I'm a big fan of letting different stats be used depending on circumstance, and have been talking and wondering a bit about saves based on different saves in a more organized fashion. Having followers and henchmen work like you suggest is along those lines, only better! <br /><br />Good post.AndreasDavourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17170806742393291962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post-70800882630161804392011-07-06T14:51:10.722-05:002011-07-06T14:51:10.722-05:00As always excellent thoughts here. I rather like t...As always excellent thoughts here. I rather like this approach and would be curious to hear how it works in play.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.com