tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post2868079045159651740..comments2024-03-14T10:32:29.233-05:00Comments on Blood of Prokopius: Wizards of Averoigne: A Rainbow of Spell-CastersFrDavehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00459281821319914530noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post-31835891290523651362013-02-27T23:54:41.579-06:002013-02-27T23:54:41.579-06:00Nice! But it lacks symmetry (I'm odd about tha...Nice! But it lacks symmetry (I'm odd about that):<br /><br />If your three primary colors are:<br /> - Red<br /> - Black<br /> - White<br /><br />then your three secondary colors are:<br /> - Brown (between Black and Red) [mentioned]<br /> - Grey (between Black and White)[mentioned]<br /> - and? (between Red and White?) [new]<br /><br />Pink!<br /><br /> <i>Pink Wizards</i> - Follow their patron saint, St. Valentine, and obey his creed to learn arcane clerical spells that heal, cure, restore or otherwise negate ill effects. Are often Neutral (but may be any), female (but males are known) and preside over a vast majority of marriages. Can cast up to 5th Level spells as long as they curative or restorative, including Raise Dead. They have no guild but are generally considered an integral part of their community. <br /><br />Hobo Ogrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05431382722661731621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post-30458502793045015202013-02-24T20:31:10.388-06:002013-02-24T20:31:10.388-06:00You're on a roll, Father. :You're on a roll, Father. :Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18171998919981944351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post-90763675778133140522013-02-24T20:29:28.723-06:002013-02-24T20:29:28.723-06:00Blue Magic-Users — Practitioners of both white and...Blue Magic-Users — Practitioners of both white and black magic. Similar to the way elves in the LBBs dual-class, blue magic-users must choose which type of magic they will use at the beginning of a session and gain XP for that class — either the cleric or mu progression. Like the LBB elves, they can wear magic chain mail while casting black magic — hence the name "blue" in reference to the color of the metal that is normally used to make such armor. Note that the maximum number of spells known according to INT would include both spell lists — it wouldn't be applied separately. Thus, normally only high INT magic-users choose this path and they are the most rare of the non-Chaotic types. They are normally Lawful or Neutral and must belong to the Wizard's Guild.FrDavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00459281821319914530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post-82362469088908357942013-02-24T20:14:15.969-06:002013-02-24T20:14:15.969-06:00I was hoping someone would give other references.....I was hoping someone would give other references...I never read Unfinished Tales, which explains why I don't remember them from the passing mention in LotR. Thank you.FrDavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00459281821319914530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post-57801748259857095242013-02-24T20:03:04.074-06:002013-02-24T20:03:04.074-06:00"As I recall, three colors are explicitly men...<i>"As I recall, three colors are explicitly mentioned: white, grey and brown."</i><br /><br />There were also the "Blue Istari," two wizards who went East. They don't figure beyond a passing mention in LotR, but are discussed a bit in "Unfinished Tales." There's some speculation here: http://tinyurl.com/cjwewomAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18171998919981944351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post-13778822685526444672013-02-24T20:02:22.702-06:002013-02-24T20:02:22.702-06:00Which is why I am including grey & white magic...Which is why I am including grey & white magic users. They very nicely reflect an historic reality that you highlight here.FrDavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00459281821319914530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post-52255545962800510752013-02-24T18:32:36.770-06:002013-02-24T18:32:36.770-06:00I also divide magic by alignment, but use use the ...I also divide magic by alignment, but use use the good-evil and law-chaos axis giving PCs a wider choice of spells or allowing them to becoming a true specialist (i.e., NG has dominion of healing. light and water) .. I posted about THIS on B/X black razor ytd, but for your edification ...<br /><br /><br />Clearly, there is a historical distinction between divine or arcane based spell craft. Prior to the papal inquisition and the Renaissance, magic was seen as a natural force under dominion of (not in opposition to) God. Witchcraft or harmful magic was a crime prosecuted under secular courts and not necessarily demonic or diabolical in origins. Other forms of magic (alchemy, dowsing, fortune telling, etc.) were often practiced openly and tolerated in the middle ages. Physicians and surgeons would be consider magicians (Dr. Jekyll, Faust, etc.) while divine healing is from priests.<br /><br />In western Europe, It was confessions obtained (many thru torture) during the papal inquisition of the 13th century that prompted the movement of the jurisdiction of harmful magic or witchcraft from secular to church courts. <br /><br />There was a distinction in the High Middle Ages (11-13th century) between naturalistic, arcane or magical knowledge from that of divine power and wisdom. Most magic of this period was concerned with activities that dominated everyday life such as crop growth, romance, husbandry, child bearing, weather etc. <br /><br />Two examples from our own Earth’s history: <br />Agrippa wrote one of the seminal texts on ceremonial magic and alchemy, yet he was a devout Christian.<br />Born in 1365 AD, the medieval author Christine de Pizan was the daughter of the court physician / astrologer for the Christian King of France. <br />... <br />. <br />Unlike pagan priests, clerics have a professional, scholarly and salaried hierarchy. The first universities of the medieval world were founded as religious centers of learning that teach in the official church language; Latin in the Catholic West and Greek in the 0rthodox East. Clovis Cithoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18208194219083373456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post-20811319618274588362013-02-24T16:31:10.018-06:002013-02-24T16:31:10.018-06:00Yes, the ones that use divine magic (as opposed to...Yes, the ones that use divine magic (as opposed to white magic). They can Turn Undead, cast 4th+ level spells, etc.FrDavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00459281821319914530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2290828421410624791.post-31137883198879276622013-02-24T16:29:43.175-06:002013-02-24T16:29:43.175-06:00So, then, are there "normal" clerics in ...So, then, are there "normal" clerics in the setting (of the type that turns undead and 'raises' fallen comrades?)?JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08532311924539491087noreply@blogger.com